romney, on the other hand, has gotten better and better over several years, and down in florida is a good example of what he did, you know. he's been called everything and faced with every kind of issue imaginable. you know, he's a good debater. so he was on top of his game, and obama just, you know, kind of phoned it in, thought that was all that was necessary. >> calling it winning or losing, making it into a scoring event, and it truly is not. i'm curious, is it that governor romney did such a good job or that president obama was so off his game and lost? or is it substance? >> well, i've always thought that romney was somewhat in a position that ronald reagan was back in 1980, that people were looking for a change. carter had faced all of these difficulties, you know, the iranian hostage, double-digit misery index, in many respects worse situation than obama faces politically, but yet they were neck and neck going in. the people were looking for a reason to change. it was this irresponsible cowboy that the media had painted, really did he really qualify as a serious presidential